This is how Yaakov communicated with a man This is the same man that was at Abraham's tent - with two other men The man is the human Breath image, of the Power of - YHVH that is His own - Messenger Some say it was only a theophany Some say it was an angel Some say - Angel of the LORD Some say it was preincarnate - Jesus What do you think and feel? Read part of KJV - Did you read - angel? Hosea wrote - yet he is controlling - to messenger - and he is prevailing Do you emember the three Men at Abraham's tent? When two of the Men went into Sodom, suddenly they were - Messengers The Man back at the tent - talked with Abraham Look closer at Jacob's face He got, Bedusted, as He grabbed hold, and was going to hang onto, God - forever Hebrew - uyabq = bedusted Yaakov was bedusted - not - wrestled Jacob struggled through life, especially after he fraudulently supplanted his brother's birthright. Yaakov = supplant Fearing for his life, after twenty somewhat years of running, Yaakov finally turned to God in prayer YHVH appeared in His human form (man/messenger/preincarnate Jesus), and confronted Jacob. Yaakov, totally thrilled to death, that preincarnate Jesus would touch him, grabs on, instead of perhaps a hug Probably grabbed the same way he grabbed on to his brother's foot at birth. Wants to hold on - forever God touches the thigh and cripples Jacob - for life YHVH renames Yaakov, to - Yisrael Yisrael = struggles with God Jacob, now Israel, erects a monument Names monument - Peniel Peniel = turned to God Read part of KJV - Yaakov says - I saw Elohim - faces to faces - and she is being rescued - soul of me Nation of Israel - throughout history - struggles with God continues to struggle - today They still struggle to recognize - Jesus What's it all about? Those who turn to God - those who don't